Bloody Britain? Streets of Fear?

[Officer Dibble]

Is there no respite from the bloody crime wave that is sweeping the nation? On the very day that Gary Newlove?s moronic murderers were sentenced the Old Bailey was sitting to try the alleged perpetrators of an equally mindless ?gangsta? killing on the mean streets of London.



Does the panel think things will get better on their own? Or do you expect a continuing deterioration in civil society if we continue on our present course?





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[steve56]

Girl Gangs can be a problem too

[vp002]

No it will get worse, as the break down of family and religion in society has led to young boys and girls being bought up by gangsta rap and violent computer games.

Which is fuelled by cheap drugs.

And britain is basically america 15 years ago .....

[one eyed jack]

I can totally empathise but you are all missing something important here...

Its been bad for years. Remember the riots back in the 80's, PC Blakelock, the hundred years war? The dark ages? Despite statistics some might even say its not as bad as it used to be.

As bad as it is its not as bad as having german v12 rockets destroying and killing random houses and famillies.

In short its always been bad. if anything more needs to be done to combat the initial reasons why this takes place. With the exception of knives which are easily obtainable anywhere, I dont see any munitions factories making Uzis and 9.mm handguns in these troublesome hotspots.

To me this is greed, selfishness and all other self absorbed dark sides of our personaes converging to make the problem that is now endemic.

It is only a part of a solution but humans are so complex. Some have turned into pure fucking evil and beyond saving. Prisons were made for people like those...And yes, some of those evil people deserve death, but at whose hands?

To me, people who take human life so wantonly deserve to have theirs taken from them, whether that be in a prison cell or a box...Same difference really.

[Officer Dibble]

Excuse me, Terrance, but it certainly wasn't like this when I was a lad. Yes, shit like this did occasionally happen, but it was like once every couple of years or something and we would be talking about it for months. Now it seems to be every other day and is almost routine.

The difference now is that the people who are doing this shit are much less inhibited from perpetrating these crimes than we were in the 60's and 70's. If we knicked a few apples from the farmer?s orchard we considered ourselves hardened blaggers and then worried that the whole of the county police force would soon be on our tail. But young people now have no respect at all for authority (because if caught nothing much will happen to them) and they have not been taught right from wrong - both by their inadequate parents (or most likely 'parent') and by the 'do as you please' leather elbowed leftists who have been taking over the educational establishment sine the 1960's.


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[one eyed jack]

Officer, you've hit the nail squarely on the head when you say lack of respect for authorities and even their elders.

jamaica is a seriously violent place and the uK cannot compare to the gunman attitude out there. it sems the country loves outlaws bu tthis kind of thing rarely goes on there because families are a lot stronger, maybe in some feuding cases out there ferociously so but the distinct contrast is the break down betwen the younger and older generations. They see each other as the enemy.

Even enemies have to sit down and see eye to eye to resolve their differences.

Watching the 1 o clock news today the newsreader was addressing a teenager as if he was in with those guys that kicked that dad to death 6 months ago (Steve Newlove?) that was an obvious case of them and us right there.

Then if you look at the break down of famillies through events that never affected as many famillis back in the 60's and 70's, like drugs have got harder, poverty and ringinflation makes it harder for the more poorer to get by.

I'm not giving these people excuses but it seems these kids are a bi product of a country that is cracking at the seams and everyone wants to blame instead of trying to tdo the hardest thing by mending it. Which if we leave it longer and continue to despise the nxt generation by tarring them all with the same brush, this shit is going to get even worse.

For both sides, it might be more hell on earth than you or I even realise. I'm no bleeding heart liberal. I just recognise that something has to be done to bridge the gap between the young and the old.

Prison is not always the answer. bringing back the death penalty will not make a blind bit of difference. Kill a bad boy and there will be another bigger badder bastard to take his place. Prevention is the best way to stem the tide.

[Sam Slater]

And all reared by Thatcher's children.

[Officer Dibble]

Sam, precisely who do you mean by ?Thatcher?s children?? Are you suggesting these largely council estate dwelling mongs and bad brains are the sons and daughters of the 80's high flyers - or 'Yuppies'?




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