Families in Meltdown?

[Officer Dibble]

A senior judge has lambasted NuLabour over the modern epidemic of family breakdown and failure ? which we see all to clearly in cases like the one involving Shannon Matthews.

So that set me thinking ? has the advent of easier ?no fault? divorce that was introduced under pressure from ?wimmin?s libbers and the luvie elite been a factor in the disintegration of families, and is that precipitating a wider societal breakdown?

What about that favoured Labour policy of heaping benefits, freebies and handouts upon stupid, feckless, young girls (who are totally unsuited for motherhood) if they get pregnant?

Have these policies simply made family breakdown viable? Has the attitude of various Labour administrations and the luvie elite in removing stigmatisation of these social failures also played a huge part in creating the situation we see today ? where those involved aren?t the slightest bit ashamed or embarrassed that they haven?t come up to the standards that the majority still accept as the norm? And where will it all go from here? Will it get worse? Will our civilisation eventually fall apart ? in the manner of all the other great civilisations before us?










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[Sam Slater]

Most of the kids causing chaos on our streets are 12-25 and learnt how to behave under a Tory government, from parents who are at an age that were reared, schooled and left school into the big wide world.....under Thatcher.

I've said this before, of course.

Labour, of course, have an obligation to tackle the problem and it could be argued they've not done much to rectify certain issues, but to say they caused it is either ignorance, or a downright falsehood.

[Officer Dibble]

"Most of the kids causing chaos on our streets are 12-25 and learnt how to behave under a Tory government, from parents who are at an age that were reared, schooled and left school into the big wide world.....under Thatcher."

So are you saying that Mrs. T's government was far to liberal and permissive?


"Labour, of course, have an obligation to tackle the problem and it could be argued they've not done much to rectify certain issues, but to say they caused it is either ignorance, or a downright falsehood."

Who has said they caused it?




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[colonel]

Its not the Labour Party, Dibbs- and what the fuck is 'NuLabor' then?

It is the slow-acting poison called Thatcherism of small children watching family life and comforts collapse 20 years ago- and now showing their kids that crime is the only way to 'keep up with the Joneses' and that drugs is escapism from the numbing hell of post-industrialisation.

[Officer Dibble]

The motives of these perpetrators of recent atrocities didn't seem to be "keeping up with the Jones" in fact they don't seem to have had any clear motive at all. And why would you need to beat or stab someone to death to keep up with the Jones when you could take the much less judicially fraught and sustainable route of striving for a good job or starting a business? Isn't the increasing advent of random street killings, without any clear motive, a sign civil society is beginning to break down?































Officer Dibble







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[Sam Slater]

[quote]So are you saying that Mrs. T's government was far to liberal and permissive?[/quote]

No. Are you saying that liberalism causes family breakdown and crime?

[quote]Who has said they caused it?[/quote]

Well, are you insinuating they caused it, doing nothing about it, making it worse, or all three?

[Officer Dibble]

?Are you saying that liberalism causes family breakdown and crime??

Some commentators have suggested that allowing, and indeed financing, folks to do whatever they please without clear moral boundaries or placing upon them any obligation to adhere to social norms or contribute to the society which they are apart of will inevitably lead to family breakdown and crime. I am but an interested observer.


?Well, are you insinuating they caused it, doing nothing about it, making it worse, or all three??

I am merely the Devil?s advocate.





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[colonel]

Is all you do read and save news items, Dibbs?

The Tory press and a Tory judge knifing a democratic Labour government. Well, I never, etc etc.

The Tories give you a few things in life, Dibbs. Democracy won't be one of them.

[colonel]

Officer Dibble wrote:

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> ?Well, are you insinuating they caused it, doing nothing about
> it, making it worse, or all three??
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> I am merely the Devil?s advocate.
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> Officer Dibble

From the horse's mouth. Which is why this Robert Mugabe of BGAFD needs to be appreciated with a tongue firmly in cheek. Hopefully Emily's cheek. Well, her arse cheek ideally.

[Jonone]

Wasn't it Mrs T who famously said 'There is no such thing as society' ? Once that genie is out of the lamp it's very difficult to get back in, hence you get individualism with little sense of social obligations or responsibility.

This isn't a cause and effect argument it's speculation, but I think it's fair to say that there were currents of political thought at the time which weren't positive.