In the London Evening Standard today
police attack on 'protestor'?
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They claimed that there was no CCTV coverage of the area concerned, until earlier this week, when they found they did have some CCTV cameras in the are after all. Perhaps just left it long enough for the tapes to be wipe or lost?
From the telegraph
"Amateur footage later emerged of the incident from a member of the public but last week Nick Hardwick, chairman of the Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is investigating, said there was no CCTV footage because there were no cameras in the location where he was assaulted.
But the IPCC yesterday issued a "clarification" that Mr Hardwick's assertion "may not be accurate" and that there were indeed cameras covering the area.
A spokeswoman insisted the investigators knew that from the start and have been examining hours of footage."
From the telegraph
"Amateur footage later emerged of the incident from a member of the public but last week Nick Hardwick, chairman of the Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is investigating, said there was no CCTV footage because there were no cameras in the location where he was assaulted.
But the IPCC yesterday issued a "clarification" that Mr Hardwick's assertion "may not be accurate" and that there were indeed cameras covering the area.
A spokeswoman insisted the investigators knew that from the start and have been examining hours of footage."
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It's hard not to talk about this without coming across as not having any sympathy for the man that died which goes without saying.
Things that bother me about all this are:
That under 40 people were arrested in London. Over 300 were arrested in France a few days later, at a similar event and the police used a lot more violence but according to the media it's our system which is wrong.
The so-called anarchists who hate law and order with a passion now want law and order.
The tactics used have been used before (and are b.t.w used at football matches every weekend) and the 'professional' protesters now moaning should have known how they would have been treated.
Not justifying in anyway what happened, the officers responsible, if guilty, should be prosecuted like anyone else, I just don't like the way it's all one sided.
If a bomb or any other terrorist attack had happened on the same day the majority of the officers being lambasted would have been running to the direction of it when most of those shouting would have been running in the opposite direction.
It should also be remembered that most of the gobby fuckers on the front line want a reaction that's why they have so many of there own cameras in the crowd.
Things that bother me about all this are:
That under 40 people were arrested in London. Over 300 were arrested in France a few days later, at a similar event and the police used a lot more violence but according to the media it's our system which is wrong.
The so-called anarchists who hate law and order with a passion now want law and order.
The tactics used have been used before (and are b.t.w used at football matches every weekend) and the 'professional' protesters now moaning should have known how they would have been treated.
Not justifying in anyway what happened, the officers responsible, if guilty, should be prosecuted like anyone else, I just don't like the way it's all one sided.
If a bomb or any other terrorist attack had happened on the same day the majority of the officers being lambasted would have been running to the direction of it when most of those shouting would have been running in the opposite direction.
It should also be remembered that most of the gobby fuckers on the front line want a reaction that's why they have so many of there own cameras in the crowd.
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It's hard to compare our situation with France- their police have
been routinely armed [gas, guns and water-cannon] and for much
longer, so they might be said to have 'upped the stakes' a lot earlier.
Also, there is a 'tradition' of much more violent public protest there
than over here [e.g. the student riots of '68 or the endless farmers'
blockades].
A woman has now surfaced, alleging she was truncheoned in an
unprovoked act by another officer. The police are our only barrier
between order and chaos but this sort of nonsense erodes public
support- without which, policing by consent goes out the window
and we end up with a militia.
been routinely armed [gas, guns and water-cannon] and for much
longer, so they might be said to have 'upped the stakes' a lot earlier.
Also, there is a 'tradition' of much more violent public protest there
than over here [e.g. the student riots of '68 or the endless farmers'
blockades].
A woman has now surfaced, alleging she was truncheoned in an
unprovoked act by another officer. The police are our only barrier
between order and chaos but this sort of nonsense erodes public
support- without which, policing by consent goes out the window
and we end up with a militia.
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I blame the politicians.The police have been put in a difficult position by politicians bleating on about threats to our security etc.The Met appear to have got this very wrong and were bricking it after protests from earlier years that embarrassed all concerned.The officer lost his cool in a few seconds of stress caused by a hostile mob .He will lose his job.Meanwhile Smith will be pleased the heat is off her albeit temporarily.The woman being paid handsomely to show her bruises will be loving the attention.She is an example of the sort of person that leeches from society.
Hopefully the police will learn a few lessons from the way they policed this event.It was a disgrace and they rightfully are taking a lot of flak.
Hopefully the police will learn a few lessons from the way they policed this event.It was a disgrace and they rightfully are taking a lot of flak.
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The protestor is now being 'advised' by Max Clifford.
This is a Max Clifford Production.
This is a Max Clifford Production.
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swampthing wrote:
> in a country with no democracy
If there was no democracy you would have been able to write what you just had.
>I find it hard to understand how people can be against protesters.
Nothing against peaceful protesters. I've done it myself many times. Mouthy wankers with intent which many of those who invoked the police violent reaction were Yes.
> its bollocks to say that protesters (you said anarchists lol)
> hate law and order.
LOL? I deliberately stated anarchists because anarchist were involved (they are the ones in the black and or red mask hiding their faces) along with others. These cunts want no law (apparently) but when the law stops their fun they demand action in other words law is taken against those who spoiled their fun.
>do you call what your police were doing that day law and order?
Yes it was a police operation and as I said the same tactics are used every week at almost every football ground in the UK.
Twating some innocent with a baton or pushing with excessive force isn't how it should be done but batons and other tools are used on a daily basis.
Be honest if they guy hadn't died fuck all would have been said, bruise lady wouldn't be the latest gutter celebrity and this thread wouldn't have even been posted.
>i guess you think the poor attempt at a cover up is law and order too.
NO I don't as I said if there is any wrong doing I expect the culprits to be punished.
>If you still think the police are there to protect us and crap like that well then thats cute.
Thanks. I suppose gratitude for the policeman killed on duty recently while responding to a criminal act to stop the public from coming to harm is nonsense sorry.
>hope you keep your blinkers on.
Cheers I will!
> in a country with no democracy
If there was no democracy you would have been able to write what you just had.
>I find it hard to understand how people can be against protesters.
Nothing against peaceful protesters. I've done it myself many times. Mouthy wankers with intent which many of those who invoked the police violent reaction were Yes.
> its bollocks to say that protesters (you said anarchists lol)
> hate law and order.
LOL? I deliberately stated anarchists because anarchist were involved (they are the ones in the black and or red mask hiding their faces) along with others. These cunts want no law (apparently) but when the law stops their fun they demand action in other words law is taken against those who spoiled their fun.
>do you call what your police were doing that day law and order?
Yes it was a police operation and as I said the same tactics are used every week at almost every football ground in the UK.
Twating some innocent with a baton or pushing with excessive force isn't how it should be done but batons and other tools are used on a daily basis.
Be honest if they guy hadn't died fuck all would have been said, bruise lady wouldn't be the latest gutter celebrity and this thread wouldn't have even been posted.
>i guess you think the poor attempt at a cover up is law and order too.
NO I don't as I said if there is any wrong doing I expect the culprits to be punished.
>If you still think the police are there to protect us and crap like that well then thats cute.
Thanks. I suppose gratitude for the policeman killed on duty recently while responding to a criminal act to stop the public from coming to harm is nonsense sorry.
>hope you keep your blinkers on.
Cheers I will!
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JJ it is hard to compare however the media reaction needs to be looked at.
When the same media have shows like Police Camera Action etc which are watched and are enjoyed when the 'chav' gets a beating, sprayed, pinned or took down why aren't questions asked about the force being used then?
I am going to stop commenting on this because I am coming across as not having any sympathy for the man that was killed, which isn't the case.
When the same media have shows like Police Camera Action etc which are watched and are enjoyed when the 'chav' gets a beating, sprayed, pinned or took down why aren't questions asked about the force being used then?
I am going to stop commenting on this because I am coming across as not having any sympathy for the man that was killed, which isn't the case.