Die Flemming Saga - Holly 3 - Der Grossvater

[candela]

Some additions for Die Flemming Saga - Holly 3: Der Gro?vater

VHS title = Die Flemming Saga - Holly 3: Der Grossvater
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Onscreen title = Die Flemming-Saga - Holly Teil 3: Der Grossvater
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Onscreen begin credits
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Onscreen end credits
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- Holly Tauber (Holly Trauber on VHS cover) [=Holly Fander] plays Holly Flemming

- Steve Warson plays Peter Flemming

- Sinja Desiree' (Sinja Desiree on VHS cover) [=Susana Tauber] [non-sex] plays Doris Flemming

- Angelika Hardt [non-sex] plays Erica Flemming

- Rudolf Rogers (Rudlof Rogers in begin credits) plays Richard a. Ben Flemming

- Dan Cooper plays Steve Bender

- Erika Dod [does not appear] plays Sahra Bender

- Olaf Tenner (Olaf Tanner on VHS cover) plays Michael Arcos

- Jill Morina (incorrect on EGAFD) [=Jill Morena] plays Rita Montana

- Grit Sabatini (Gritt Sabatini in begin credits) [=Gritt Santini, not 100% sure but already credited on egafd] plays Lydia Lunch
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Guest stars (dream sequence, seems there are 7 girls, only 5 credits, very hard to see)

- Mr. Body (Mr. Boddy in begin credits)

- Uwe Carman

- Georgina Evens (incorrect on EGAFD) [=Georgina Lempin]
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- Kitty Leoni [=?]

- Ilona Capriatti [=Illona Capriati]
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- Edith Nelsen [=?]

- Oris Nicolei (Orsi Nicolei in begin credits)

- Jeanette Dupre's [=?]

- Will Landis

- Steffen Thomas

- unknown girl1
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- unknown girl2
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- unknown girl3
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- unknown girl4
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- unknown girl5
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[jj]

Scenes. Runtime, 73 min.
Susana and Angelika are seen briefl,y at the reading of the will.

1) Holly- brief piss, then b/g;
2) Holly engages in phone-sex with Vati [now, apparently, Grossvati].
After he blows his wad on a photocopier [pity the poor cleaning-lady],
the camera pans down to show that Holly's enthusiasm has been abetted
by the lesbian ministrations of Gritt Santini:
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3) Holly- alfresco fuck;
4) the sepia fantasy.
Georgina Lempin:
[IMG]http://www.egafd.com/images/hosted/ipq9skc024dqfqxk6e92_thumb.jpg[/IMG];

Unknown girls 1 and 4 are the same- Ariana Bali:
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Unknown girl 2:
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Unknown girl 3 [cute; nice tits with smallish but prominent areolae,
mole between right shoulder and tit]:
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Unknown girl 5. That sharp-nosed profile in the first cap seems
familiar:
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Is one of these Ilona Capriati? Candela seems to have illustrated her
in the above with a cap of Holly's male inerlocutor [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/confused.gif[/img], and I know
absolutely nothing about her.
In addition, there seems to be a further unknown, a sunken-eyed
sharp-nosed ?black-hair with a mole on her right cheek. It might be
unknown 2 but I can't be sure. Also, I couldn't identify the brunette
owner of the huge-areolaed tits being sucked-
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At the end the others gather around Holly; I counted 8 individuals, two
or three of whom might have been males. So: Georgina, Ariana, unknowns
2/3/5 and possibly another female, plus 2 males? I have discovered
that it's very hard to distingush curly-headed males and females solely
from the tops of their heads [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/glum.gif[/img].

5) Holly blows Grossvati. Followed by les with Jill:
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6) Holly- BJ, and Jill- b/g with Grossvati.
This time the coronary is fatal:
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[candela]

Damn Ariana Bali, I should have know that one

jj wrote:

> Is one of these Ilona Capriati? Candela seems to have illustrated her in the above with a cap of Holly's male inerlocutor [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/confused.gif[/img],
>and I know absolutely nothing about her.

You have to look over his shoulder !sherlock!


> In addition, there seems to be a further unknown, a sunken-eyed sharp-nosed ?black-hair with a mole on her right cheek. It might be unknown 2 but I can't be sure.
> [IMG]http://www.egafd.com/images/hosted/yn49d8gv0zr8pggw1bqg_thumb.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.egafd.com/images/hosted/b63w5q0b4d1bku4h5m2_thumb.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.egafd.com/images/hosted/ro3y17tzy765jecftbm_thumb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.egafd.com/images/hosted/qhai88h8fzh5d3tfbaow_thumb.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.egafd.com/images/hosted/kirm8wa2dlte7ej1c7pl_thumb.jpg[/IMG].

This is Ilona Capriati (the girl doing the sucking)

[candela]

1) Looking at the jewelry, I think we can conclude that girl2 = Ilona Capriati

2) In the gathering around Holly scene there are in fact 10 people, of which I think 2 are male. That leaves 8 female so there must be girls in this scene that did not appear before.

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blue = female
pink = male

Except for 10 = Holly Fander and 7 = Georgina Lempin it's basically impossible to recognize anyone in this shot.

[jj]

candela wrote:
> You have to look over his shoulder
Oh yeah- I see it now.
It's like that optical illusion when you look at a pair of
candlesticks, and suddenly it turns into two of faces looking
at each other [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/grin.gif[/img]


> > In addition, there seems to be a further unknown, a
> sunken-eyed sharp-nosed ?black-hair with a mole on her right
> cheek.
> This is Ilona Capriati (the girl doing the sucking)
Fair enough- as I said, I wouldn't know her from Eve [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/doh.gif[/img]

[jj]

candela wrote:

> 2) In the gathering around Holly scene there are in fact 10
> people, of which I think 2 are male. That leaves 8 female so
> there must be girls in this scene that did not appear before.

I'll take your word for it- I magnified my larger caps, I ran the
clip in Slo-mo, turned them upside-down, I even tried prayer-
and all I got was a headache.
It still just looks like a Rorschach Ink-blot to me [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/surrender.gif[/img]
I'd love to meet the person who made that scene, so I could
shake him gently by the throat....