XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
I suspect that XNK5392 is very probably the same girl as Samantha Gin.
Re: XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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chiavatorcortese
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Re: XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
I think she could be (but I didn't know her, I just judge from these pictures on EGAFD. And do you think this brunette girl could be her (or she? please, teach me correct english)?
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Re: XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
chiavatorcortese wrote:
> I think she could be (but I didn't know her, I just judge from
> these pictures on EGAFD. And do you think this brunette girl
> could be her (or she? please, teach me correct english)?
The brunette is definitely NOT SG.
'Her' is the accusative, 'she' the nominative; as in [and this only
mildly reflects my fantasies]:
"I hit her, and she hit me back a lot harder" : -))))
> I think she could be (but I didn't know her, I just judge from
> these pictures on EGAFD. And do you think this brunette girl
> could be her (or she? please, teach me correct english)?
The brunette is definitely NOT SG.
'Her' is the accusative, 'she' the nominative; as in [and this only
mildly reflects my fantasies]:
"I hit her, and she hit me back a lot harder" : -))))
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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chiavatorcortese
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Re: XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
Thank you jj, but I know this elementary difference of function between the two forms !pleased!
I asked for your help about their use in a sentence like the one I wrote ("do you think this brunette girl could be her?"), where the personal pronoun is the predicative complement of the subject ("girl").
Logic and analogy with italian say me that the right form is "she", but, I don't know why, in my ears there is something that says "her"
But this is not important: she or her !cool! is not Samantha !doh!
I asked for your help about their use in a sentence like the one I wrote ("do you think this brunette girl could be her?"), where the personal pronoun is the predicative complement of the subject ("girl").
Logic and analogy with italian say me that the right form is "she", but, I don't know why, in my ears there is something that says "her"
But this is not important: she or her !cool! is not Samantha !doh!
Re: XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
chiavatorcortese wrote:
> ("do you think this brunette girl could be her?"),
Correct [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/thumbsup.gif[/img]
> where the personal pronoun is the predicative complement of the
> subject ("girl").
I read that three times and still don't quite understand it-
but then I'm a dumbass [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/doh.gif[/img]
But you recognised the subject and therefore correctly inferred that
the rest had to be a subsidiary clause and thus any remaining nouns
ought to have been in the accusative.
> Logic and analogy with italian say me that the right form is
> "she",
This is the same mistake that pretentious Americans make when they
answer the telephone with "this is he", or '"she".... it's always
accusative in good English.
And "me" is always better, anyway. "C'est moi", pour exemple ??
> but, I don't know why, in my ears there is something
> that says "her"
Your linguistic instincts are excellent : -))
> ("do you think this brunette girl could be her?"),
Correct [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/thumbsup.gif[/img]
> where the personal pronoun is the predicative complement of the
> subject ("girl").
I read that three times and still don't quite understand it-
but then I'm a dumbass [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/doh.gif[/img]
But you recognised the subject and therefore correctly inferred that
the rest had to be a subsidiary clause and thus any remaining nouns
ought to have been in the accusative.
> Logic and analogy with italian say me that the right form is
> "she",
This is the same mistake that pretentious Americans make when they
answer the telephone with "this is he", or '"she".... it's always
accusative in good English.
And "me" is always better, anyway. "C'est moi", pour exemple ??
> but, I don't know why, in my ears there is something
> that says "her"
Your linguistic instincts are excellent : -))
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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chiavatorcortese
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Re: XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
Thank you very much.
As for this
> > where the personal pronoun is the predicative complement of
> the
> > subject ("girl").
> I read that three times and still don't quite understand it-
> but then I'm a dumbass
I looked a lot for a translation of these technical terms, but I didn't find it; so I translated them literally from italian. But maybe my analysis is slightly imperfect to: we can consider "could be her" as a predicate nominative, with the complication that the clause is not the main one, but a subsidiary one, whose construction needs accusative, as you theached me. Right?
That I tried to say with the locution "predicative complement of the subject" fits better in sentences like these: "Obama has been elected president" or "The man seems tall"; "president" and "tall" are what we call complemento predicativo del soggetto, and verbs like to seem and to elect are called verbi copulativi.
I hope to be clear
As for this
> > where the personal pronoun is the predicative complement of
> the
> > subject ("girl").
> I read that three times and still don't quite understand it-
> but then I'm a dumbass
I looked a lot for a translation of these technical terms, but I didn't find it; so I translated them literally from italian. But maybe my analysis is slightly imperfect to: we can consider "could be her" as a predicate nominative, with the complication that the clause is not the main one, but a subsidiary one, whose construction needs accusative, as you theached me. Right?
That I tried to say with the locution "predicative complement of the subject" fits better in sentences like these: "Obama has been elected president" or "The man seems tall"; "president" and "tall" are what we call complemento predicativo del soggetto, and verbs like to seem and to elect are called verbi copulativi.
I hope to be clear
Re: XNK 5392 = Samantha Gin?
chiavatorcortese wrote:
> But maybe my analysis is slightly imperfect to: we can consider
> "could be her" as a predicate nominative, with the complication
> that the clause is not the main one, but a subsidiary one,
If I remember my Fowler correctly, it always advised to treat
each clause as a separate entitiy.
> ...."predicative complement of the subject" fits better in sentences
> like these: "Obama has been elected president" or "The man seems
tall"; "president" and "tall"
...the last, of course being an adjective.....
are what we call complemento predicativo del
> soggetto, and verbs like to seem and to elect are called verbi
> copulativi.
Only the Italians could describe a part of speech as 'copulativi'
: -)))).
I did a bit of teaching EFL in my ancient past, and rapidly concluded
that [a little like our government], it's so very hard to understand
mainly because there are no hard-and-fast rules.
> But maybe my analysis is slightly imperfect to: we can consider
> "could be her" as a predicate nominative, with the complication
> that the clause is not the main one, but a subsidiary one,
If I remember my Fowler correctly, it always advised to treat
each clause as a separate entitiy.
> ...."predicative complement of the subject" fits better in sentences
> like these: "Obama has been elected president" or "The man seems
tall"; "president" and "tall"
...the last, of course being an adjective.....
are what we call complemento predicativo del
> soggetto, and verbs like to seem and to elect are called verbi
> copulativi.
Only the Italians could describe a part of speech as 'copulativi'
: -)))).
I did a bit of teaching EFL in my ancient past, and rapidly concluded
that [a little like our government], it's so very hard to understand
mainly because there are no hard-and-fast rules.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."