Karen Winter

[jj]

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See here.

[alec]

Do we know that Isabelle Torilla appeared in DBM titles under the alias Karen Winter? The Karen Winter in Dirty Lady could be a different girl.

[jj]

I went with the note on the page.... although the dating and Chevalier's presence
might be seen as corroborative.
However I haven't seen the film, and ain't likely to- there's almost nothing
about it on the web. So it's at least possible- although statistically unlikely-
that it's a different actress; though 4WIW, I rather get the impression that at
this early stage of the company's history ["Dino's Blue Movies" rather than DBM]
names were less likely to be substituted by in-house aliases.
Guess it'll have to go down as a query [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/shrug.gif[/img]

[alec]

Thanks. I'll probably add the title to Isabelle Torilla with an 'as Karen Winter, same girl?' note.

Another query has arisen from a forum post of similar vintage. Rather than dragging that one to the top as well - someone asked about the third girl in the first scene of Private Video Magazine 11 (with Lisa Sommer and Gina Wildes with two men in the snow). iafd has no name. You responded saying the name was Nana which you got from the VHS credits IYRC.



I have a copy (of sorts) of this title and there aren't any credits. I'm not sure whether a name was mentioned in audio as I skimmed through it when doing some caps (not yet processed and pretty poor anyway). Anyway, I have added a Nana [5] but I'm debating whether to make her an XNK before processing the caps. I also wonder if she's the same girl as appears in scene 7 (Sauna Girl). You may have a better copy of this than I do. Any thoughts?

[jj]

Where I got 'Nana' from is now shrouded in the mists of time but I assume
that it came from the credits- I'll check, but I think these may have been
chopped when I transferred the tape to disc : -(

From my notes: "Nana [as sc.1]- DPP.... ".

[jj]

> I'll check, but I think these may have been chopped when I transferred the
tape to disc

Sorry, all I [may] have is the VHS [in storage].

[alec]

As with all these Private vignette tapes, there is an introductory sequence giving previews of each scene. In my copy the preview of the first scene is almost entirely cut off, with just the final screen remaining giving the title "Campfire". There is live sound but, unusually, no voiceover in any scene or the intro except for the first magazine advert, but not the second. (That's as far as I went just now.) There are also no on-screen credits at all.

The tapes generally had different voiceovers in different languages for different countries, but it seems unlikely that some versions had onscreen credits while others did not. So I think it's most likely that your tape had a voiceover which gave the names of the performers, but my copy does not.

We'll stick with Nana and change it if fresh evidence comes to light.

Thanks for looking.

[alec]

For some reason iafd have ignored scene 3 and they always ignore the Report scenes in their numbering; so, by my numbering, I think 'Nana' is also in scene 7 "Sauna Girl", with two men, not one as reported on iafd.

My scene breakdown and caps of Nana have now gone up. Do you agree that it's the same girl in scenes 1 and 7?

[jj]

alec wrote:
> For some reason iafd have ignored scene 3 and they always
> ignore the Report scenes in their numbering; so, by my
> numbering, I think 'Nana' is also in scene 7 "Sauna Girl", with
> two men, not one as reported on iafd.
> ..... Do you agree that it's the same girl in scenes 1 and 7?

As I said above I have Nana down for sc. 1 and a later DPP [which as far as I
know needs at least two men to be achieveable!]; it's the sixth in my listing
[which also ignores those tiresome 'reports'], so that would make it the seventh
in total.

[alec]

Thanks.