[the third
title].
Indiana Fox:
As Celine [see the cover]? Or as well as Celine?
TIA
Attn: Len
Re: Attn: Len
Don't know what to tell you.
The DVD box cover indicates 3 female names:
Eva Lange (she is the box cover girl), Celine, Laura Pink.
The Video Marc Dorcel web site
lists 4 girls : Eva Lange, C?line, Milano, Richard Langin, Max Casanova, Indiana Fox, Laura Pink
Based on the few limited movies profiles I have had the opportunity to examine
at that site, they are usually pretty dead on (but if a name is made linkable in the cast,
it may not necessarily lead you to all the movies "she" has necessarily
appeared in; if the girl is using a first name, DORCEL may screw up
the other supposed movies she has been in).
The problem is I don't have the movie, nor I have seen it or capsheets which
shows all the scenes.
The front/back of DVD cover mostly shows thumbnails of Eva Lange (she is easily
recognizable by her hair, tattoos and mostly that black collar she is wearing
around her neck with some type of sparkling jewelry at the front end.
The few screenshots (or publicity photos) that Dorcel has there on the linked page
shows mostly Eva Lange, as well as 2 other blondes (one of whom is wearing
a mask). I really don't see Laura Pink.
If you look at the back cover of the DVD you don't see very much either,
except there is a thumbnail (top, the third one from left) which shows a slim dark
skinned/tanned girl. I would suspect she may be Indiana Fox, but can't be really sure.
So I would suspect perhaps the "Celine" in question may be one of the two blondes
(perhaps the one not wearing the mask)
I know this does not help much, but I'm not sure "Celine" really mean
Indiana Fox. As to whether Fox really is in the movie, we have to accept
DORCEL's claim and the small thumbnail which shows someone that looks like her.
The DVD box cover indicates 3 female names:
Eva Lange (she is the box cover girl), Celine, Laura Pink.
The Video Marc Dorcel web site
lists 4 girls : Eva Lange, C?line, Milano, Richard Langin, Max Casanova, Indiana Fox, Laura Pink
Based on the few limited movies profiles I have had the opportunity to examine
at that site, they are usually pretty dead on (but if a name is made linkable in the cast,
it may not necessarily lead you to all the movies "she" has necessarily
appeared in; if the girl is using a first name, DORCEL may screw up
the other supposed movies she has been in).
The problem is I don't have the movie, nor I have seen it or capsheets which
shows all the scenes.
The front/back of DVD cover mostly shows thumbnails of Eva Lange (she is easily
recognizable by her hair, tattoos and mostly that black collar she is wearing
around her neck with some type of sparkling jewelry at the front end.
The few screenshots (or publicity photos) that Dorcel has there on the linked page
shows mostly Eva Lange, as well as 2 other blondes (one of whom is wearing
a mask). I really don't see Laura Pink.
If you look at the back cover of the DVD you don't see very much either,
except there is a thumbnail (top, the third one from left) which shows a slim dark
skinned/tanned girl. I would suspect she may be Indiana Fox, but can't be really sure.
So I would suspect perhaps the "Celine" in question may be one of the two blondes
(perhaps the one not wearing the mask)
I know this does not help much, but I'm not sure "Celine" really mean
Indiana Fox. As to whether Fox really is in the movie, we have to accept
DORCEL's claim and the small thumbnail which shows someone that looks like her.
Re: Attn: Len
Looks like it's four girls, then.
I'm not going to add LP or 'Celine', except as a footnote, on the strength of
the info we have thus far- this is the major drawback of 'cover-based'
submissions... I don't like having to speculate [at any rate, more than
absolutely necessary].
I'm not going to add LP or 'Celine', except as a footnote, on the strength of
the info we have thus far- this is the major drawback of 'cover-based'
submissions... I don't like having to speculate [at any rate, more than
absolutely necessary].
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Attn: Len
That is the frustration we "cataloguers" get when we basically
have limited means at our disposal to determine whether an individual
is or is not in a movie.
In these cases (the recent French movie listings) I/you have nothing
more than box covers and scant few screencaps to determine the cast
members.
Dorcel usually is pretty accurate in listing female, male cast members
(at least for the few titles I have ran across). That does not mean their
listings are 100% dead accurate, but of course everything has to be
taken with a grain of sault and one must always make secondary
determination as the accuracy of that information.
The disappointing feature(s) of the Dorcel movie profile page is the
so-called "trailers" they put up (30 seconds of really nothing, and basically
a waste of time a bandwidth), and limited poor choice of screencaps).
Anyway we can assume with a certain sense of certainty that the movie
featured Eva Lange (box cover girls and shown in several thumbnails)
and most likely Laura Pink and I don't think her name would have been
put on box cover for no reason, although I really don't see her in the
thumbnails, which are mostly of Lange...
have limited means at our disposal to determine whether an individual
is or is not in a movie.
In these cases (the recent French movie listings) I/you have nothing
more than box covers and scant few screencaps to determine the cast
members.
Dorcel usually is pretty accurate in listing female, male cast members
(at least for the few titles I have ran across). That does not mean their
listings are 100% dead accurate, but of course everything has to be
taken with a grain of sault and one must always make secondary
determination as the accuracy of that information.
The disappointing feature(s) of the Dorcel movie profile page is the
so-called "trailers" they put up (30 seconds of really nothing, and basically
a waste of time a bandwidth), and limited poor choice of screencaps).
Anyway we can assume with a certain sense of certainty that the movie
featured Eva Lange (box cover girls and shown in several thumbnails)
and most likely Laura Pink and I don't think her name would have been
put on box cover for no reason, although I really don't see her in the
thumbnails, which are mostly of Lange...
Re: Attn: Len
I love those 'trailers' that quite literally feature 30 sec. of opening-credits
and nothing whatever of the actual film/cast.
Spectacular boneheadedness....
and nothing whatever of the actual film/cast.
Spectacular boneheadedness....
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Attn: Len
I don't know whether "bonehead" actually qualifies how asinine, retarded
and commercially unwise that is.
So imagine if I were a potential buyer who has to make a decision as to
whether to purchase the DVD/download the movie, etc solely based on
the crappy sized DVD covers, awful thumbnails of only a couple of scenes,
and those 30-seconds "trailers" with nothing in them!
Dorcel must have the dumbest assfucks in the porn industry developing/working
those "contents" thinking: "hey this is so fucking simple!!!" and believe money will
just fall in their pockets.
Do they ever check out the competition to determine how they sell their
product on line? Ferro, 21sextury, DDF, Brazzers, Score, etc?
Now I understand why their porn industry has practically gone "pro-am" in such
a brief time! How do the French (consumers) react to this "inferior" product?
Are there French any in this forum that can give some feedback for the recent
quality/quantity of French porn production?
and commercially unwise that is.
So imagine if I were a potential buyer who has to make a decision as to
whether to purchase the DVD/download the movie, etc solely based on
the crappy sized DVD covers, awful thumbnails of only a couple of scenes,
and those 30-seconds "trailers" with nothing in them!
Dorcel must have the dumbest assfucks in the porn industry developing/working
those "contents" thinking: "hey this is so fucking simple!!!" and believe money will
just fall in their pockets.
Do they ever check out the competition to determine how they sell their
product on line? Ferro, 21sextury, DDF, Brazzers, Score, etc?
Now I understand why their porn industry has practically gone "pro-am" in such
a brief time! How do the French (consumers) react to this "inferior" product?
Are there French any in this forum that can give some feedback for the recent
quality/quantity of French porn production?
Re: Attn: Len
I get the impression that some of the big outfits regard the DVD business
as very much as a sideline, with their expansion into PPV/VOD etc. etc.
OTOH I've recently had dealings with Teraz Films, a small outfit dealing in
horror/softcore [although some of the stuff is hard enough to merit inclusion
here], and they couldn't do enough for me. The guy was [justifiably] moaning
about theft and the effect it has on his bottom line- and the irony that while
sites like Kink who do 'real' BDSM can get a payment-gateway from card-processors
he's been repeatedly turned down because his content is "extreme" [in fact,
it's nothing worse than you'd see in Hollywood- and a good deal more erotic].
as very much as a sideline, with their expansion into PPV/VOD etc. etc.
OTOH I've recently had dealings with Teraz Films, a small outfit dealing in
horror/softcore [although some of the stuff is hard enough to merit inclusion
here], and they couldn't do enough for me. The guy was [justifiably] moaning
about theft and the effect it has on his bottom line- and the irony that while
sites like Kink who do 'real' BDSM can get a payment-gateway from card-processors
he's been repeatedly turned down because his content is "extreme" [in fact,
it's nothing worse than you'd see in Hollywood- and a good deal more erotic].
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Attn: Len
Sorry to go off topic on this title, but I have been giving a second
hard look at the DVD back cover, and the third thumbnail from (top) left.
We don't really see her face (those dimwits have to censor the guy's
dick in her mouth).
Yes she is tanned, and you can't really see the hair or its color, but she is
wearing white shoes, a black top and black panties, and the blonde
with her in that pic/thumbnail is wearing a mask.
I would conclude that is not really Indiana Fox, contrary to what I initially
thought. I believe that this is the blonde in question (who knows perhaps
this mysterious "Celine"?).
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So all the "production" stills at the Dorcel site and all the thumbnails
that appear on the DVD back cover only seem to show Eva Lange, and supposedly
two blondes (one of whom is masked).
All the rest is supposition as to the presence of the other performers, with
perhaps the only other sure thing that Laura Pink is there also (based
on her billed name).
Anyway Kink.com product is extremely violent when considering what other
US porn producers are able to churn out. I don't know how they get away with
it. Director Rob Black and Max Hardcore went to jail for much tamer and
offensive content, but the authorities seem to look the other way for Kink.
As for "theft" I could dedicate a whole thread on this subject either for
mainstream and porn product. $30-$40 for a porn DVD? $15 to download it?
Try porn VOD by way of cable/satellite: $12? And possibly censored in some way?
Movies only released a few years ago, and have disappeared from the face
of the earth. "Re-mastered" DVD that are nothing more than ripped VHS
in their library. Movies shot on 16m-35m "remastered" and again released
in full screen format? Yeah, that what they want us to buy!
When they address several difficult issues, then perhaps they can understand
the so called "theft" question....
hard look at the DVD back cover, and the third thumbnail from (top) left.
We don't really see her face (those dimwits have to censor the guy's
dick in her mouth).
Yes she is tanned, and you can't really see the hair or its color, but she is
wearing white shoes, a black top and black panties, and the blonde
with her in that pic/thumbnail is wearing a mask.
I would conclude that is not really Indiana Fox, contrary to what I initially
thought. I believe that this is the blonde in question (who knows perhaps
this mysterious "Celine"?).
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So all the "production" stills at the Dorcel site and all the thumbnails
that appear on the DVD back cover only seem to show Eva Lange, and supposedly
two blondes (one of whom is masked).
All the rest is supposition as to the presence of the other performers, with
perhaps the only other sure thing that Laura Pink is there also (based
on her billed name).
Anyway Kink.com product is extremely violent when considering what other
US porn producers are able to churn out. I don't know how they get away with
it. Director Rob Black and Max Hardcore went to jail for much tamer and
offensive content, but the authorities seem to look the other way for Kink.
As for "theft" I could dedicate a whole thread on this subject either for
mainstream and porn product. $30-$40 for a porn DVD? $15 to download it?
Try porn VOD by way of cable/satellite: $12? And possibly censored in some way?
Movies only released a few years ago, and have disappeared from the face
of the earth. "Re-mastered" DVD that are nothing more than ripped VHS
in their library. Movies shot on 16m-35m "remastered" and again released
in full screen format? Yeah, that what they want us to buy!
When they address several difficult issues, then perhaps they can understand
the so called "theft" question....
Re: Attn: Len
I'll leave the note as is, then.
Re Kink- I think they're 'offshore', at least as far as the Feds are concerned.
Same sort of setup as 21S, who do similarly extreme content with some of
their sublabels.
Re Kink- I think they're 'offshore', at least as far as the Feds are concerned.
Same sort of setup as 21S, who do similarly extreme content with some of
their sublabels.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Attn: Len
To be frank JJ, I would remove Indiana Fox from the EGAFD official movie cast
as we cannot be entirely sure of her presence either.
She is not billed (at least on box cover) and she is not seen in any of the
thumbnails on the DVD cover.
I would leave Eva Lange and put a footnote of the possible presence of the 3 other names.
That's my humble suggestion, but it's your call.
as we cannot be entirely sure of her presence either.
She is not billed (at least on box cover) and she is not seen in any of the
thumbnails on the DVD cover.
I would leave Eva Lange and put a footnote of the possible presence of the 3 other names.
That's my humble suggestion, but it's your call.