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Just been looking at the Riviera DVD web site () and I have to say, when looking at all the Czech and Hungarian cuties listed it makes 95% of the girls on BGAFD look most unapetising.

Like British food, our girls appear stodgy compared to the lithe, fit, sexy East Europeans.

When you see how few British girls have starred in big European and US productions I think it says a lot about the standards over here.

Surely it's not enough to be willing to fuck and suck in front of a camera... there should be something aesthetically pleasing in the look of the girls employed.

Ah - but you're missing the point, sir.

We can, to continue your analogy, sample any number of international dishes, but I believe that most of us prefer to eat at home because:

a) It is much easier to identify with the participants (I personally have never porked anyone who looks remotely like Sylvia Saint ... but one of my ex-girlfriends looked (and sounded) a hell of a lot like amanda dawkins).

b) It reflects our nation's sexual psyche - which is (IMHO) dissimilar to that of the Yanks or other European nations.

The British are best!

Yep, British for me too.
I agree Eastern Europeans have got a 'look' but so do Yanks with their peroxide hair, silicone tits and 4" nails.......and you soon tire of THAT!

90% of these random european starlets have the personalities of a tree.

Also, they are lots of things you need to take into account as to why they are so many more east european models than Brits. For one thing, there's a hell of alot more of them and a higher percentage of them are willing to do adult films for reasons very, very different to British girls.

mark

http://www.ukpornarchive.com

I don't think there is much doubt that the Eastern Europeans as a whole have perkier natural tits ,fitter bodies and have a certain barely legal look that apears to be the flavor of the month

Some of my favourites are eastern European-I thought they were Brits-frogive me

However IMO this beauty doesn't transfer onto the silver screen in ta way that makes their performances memorable

Many a time I've watched a gorgeous eastern european babe in a private,marc dorcel or even Amercian production go through the motions
A bit like watching you washing machine go through all the cycles-dead boring...in amongst all the moaning and groaning you catch a slight glimpse of her eyes off to something happenng on set.Then you add in the dubbing of their voices...i don't bother anymore

Its all fake and if its not its so predictable ....robot sex is a good description

Porn without eroticism is crap...doesn't take much but for some producers it would seem to be a quantum leap.

I can rememeber a producer saying that he can go to budapest and film for a third of the price but for 3 times that he can film a brit girl who will have sex because she wants to not because shes being paid-interesting

cheers
B....OZ

British girls are best? Well they may be but we have a problem with our British ?Stars?. The problem is that most of them are also escorts or doing parties, well that?s the new name for whatever it is that earns money. Don?t get me wrong and I have no wish to make myself more unpopular but we have to face facts. When 10 or 20 guys come along to a hotel room to get as dirty as possible with a couple of girls what?s your name for it? There is maybe a little pretence at filming the event or taking a few pictures for a web site but for the most part it has nothing whatsoever to do with the film business. For the girls who do it, not a problem and long may they take the money, for someone trying to book them to do a days work for a days pay a big problem. It?s also a question of attitude, The eastern European girls are stunning, they do have a great attitude and they do the job for the same reason as the British girls; Money. That?s why we all do it one way or another.

I had a casting arranged for last week at a great little studio in Nottingham, plug for
http://www.nottingham-models.co.uk/ out of the six girls who wanted to come for a casting not from this agent by the way, for top class work here, in France and Spain how many turned up. Yes, you guessed, not a one. The usual excuse, oh I had a paying job on that day and decided to cancel your casting, and well, we have to do these first. No phone calls in advance mind, and we were planning to do a little shoot with each girl so we could pay her expenses and give her a fee for the work done. What do these same girls say if they turn up for a shoot and I say I have a previous engagement see you later? Well you bet in won?t be too nice.
Why do we have so few porn stars? Well it?s a young industry in this country, the girls are not yet accepted as porn stars in their own right, and it?s a comparatively small market especially if compared against the American or German. The ball is back in the girls court, there are a few great girls who can call themselves stars in this country, not enough to count on two hands I think and most of them funnily enough contributors here, if the girls want to become more than porno models, if they do want to be porn stars then they need to work at that. For my money, if they want to be escorts good luck to them but don?t tell me they are porn stars, oh and why don?t the ?agents? who list these girls tell us that they are escorts first and models last? ?Bout time we had a real professional agency in this country as well but that?s another story.

It is all basically a question of attitude. In general, English girls range from lazy to bone idle.

I have all but given up on the model agency side of my life and although I occasionally advertise now, it is more of a wistful hope rather than expecting new, eager talent -willing to learn and earn. It is not only porn girls: the whole attitude is prevalent amongst our fairer sex, from "top-shelf" girls, videos, escorts etc.

Our established girls view this life as a profession and act accordingly, but as we all know they are, sadly, few and far between.

The E.European attitude is that this can be a passport to a far better life and they WORK at it.

And with the likes of Johnny Rebel making 'robot sex' garbage like Rude Britannia its not surprising if British girls start to look unappetising. Visual
bromide!

Monkey Tennis wrote:

b) It reflects our nation's sexual psyche - which is (IMHO) dissimilar to that of the Yanks or other European nations.

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My own personal experiences lead me to believe that Americans tend to like whatever is the biggest, irrespective of quality... this has been shown over the years in their cars, their "cuisine" (last time I was in the US all the restaurants I went to were trying to out-do each other in terms of portion size... but no matter where you went, the food was pretty tasteless!) and now their porn stars. How many of them are 100% silicone free?

I'm sorry to see that this trend is being picked up in the UK. I first met Layla-Jade prior to her boob job. I also knew Melissa Walker before hers, too. Both of these girls are smashing people... sweet personalities, and I love them both, but I would be lying if I said I prefered their new looks. I've also seen pics of Cathy Barry and Michelle Thorne before they had boob jobs. IMHO they all looked better before than after.

OK, I understand that from their point of view they felt they needed to change the shape of their bodies to help "sell themselves" in the world of modelling and films. I also accept that some East Europeans , such as Sylvia Saint, have also been "enhanced", but by far the majority of these girls are 100% natural.




I'd also be interested to know exactly where our sexual psyche differs from the Americans. We're both sexually repressed nations, on the whole. The main difference lies in the written American Constitution and Bill of Rights, which lay down certain basic freedoms, such as free speech, which people like Larry Flynt used in the courts to push the barriers of what was permissable in print, and ipso facto, in film.

The people of mainland Europe have always struck me as being far more liberated sexually than we Brits, so it is of no great surprise to me that so many beautiful young girls from France, Italy, Germany, Scandinavia and Eastern Europe are happy to do porn.

The saddest thing in my mind is that by fully integrating into the European Community we will benefit from some of the freedoms available elsewhere, but our small-minded little-englander mentality will not allow us to do so!

It is also somewhat of a fallacy to think that young Czech and Hungarian girls are only willing to do porn because of the economic situation in those countries. Those who have been to Prague or Budapest will know that there are as many Mercs, BMWs, Jags etc as on the streets of London. (And equally, just like London, there are poorer areas, too). It did not take long for some of the inhabitants of these countries to en-rich themselves. These people are not the backward peasants that many westerners seem to think they are. They are well educated and highly motivated.

If economics is the only criteria, how come so many of the British girls are middle class? Yes of course money plays a part, but so does motivation. Given that Hungary is so "poor" and America so "rich" you would think, based on the arguments some have expressed, that there would be no American porn stars at all! After all, living in such a wealthy nation, there is no need to do porn, is there? Unless of course you ENJOY doing porn. Then, a little like a footballer, you're getting paid to do something you enjoy.



Bob S
www.fullservice.org.uk

This thing about tit-size is something of a fallacy. "Bigger is better"??

When I first met Roxanne Hall, she was a skinny little waif who became an angel in front of the camera. She was my house guest for quite a while until the lure of US Big Bucks became too much to ignore (and quite rightly so).
However, her early lack of mammary magnitude was never a drawback, and as Bob said, neither was Layla's.

To my mind, if a girl NEEDS a boob job, then fine.
But as the man said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".