Drug testing in our schools

[sandie]

what? will they be kicked out of school for drug use then if they prove positive?


i dont believe for a second the state would do that so whats the point?


is there any point being born in this world??

[eroticartist]

Sandie,
I don't know what will happen but I expect that punishment and coercion to stick with alcohol will result!
Mike.

[strictlybroadband]

According to the Guardian today, 5 grams of weed could be enough to get classed as a dealer and sent down for several years. That's under a quarter! We live in dangerous times - our government and police are a bigger threat to liberty than any "terrorist".

[strictlybroadband]

Big Ears Pix wrote:

> My contract of employment says I can be subjected to random
> drug and alcohol testing. It's a standard clause with most
> multi national companies.

For multi national read "American".

[randyandy]

eroticartist wrote:

I don't know what will happen but I expect that punishment and
coercion to stick with alcohol will result!

My original response to this post was BOLLOCKS and it still is.

Coercion (if it does exsist) to do things legally, have respect for themselves, their classmates, their school and their community I think is the aim.

It's a shame that schools are having to do it because parental is responsibility is lacking.

As a drug user you will always disagree with any argument against drugs even if facts and not myths are given so there is little point in saying anything more.

Sorry Mike your talking BOLLOCKS and I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree with this post.

[strictlybroadband]

Society doesn't get to choose whether people use drugs or not. It can only choose whether people use drugs safely and legally, or illegally and dangerously. Illegal drugs have caused massive damage to society, that drugs never did before despite thousands of years of use. Every clampdown on drugs leads to more deaths and suffering. Drug testing in schools will simply isolate a minority of rebellious kids and create a bigger crime problem once they leave school.

There is no logical reason to attack drug users, except as part of a wider campaign to give the state power over its citizens. No genuinely free society would regulate what people put into their own bodies - illegal drugs are part of a police state.

[Big Ears Pix]

> For multi national read "American".

Sorry but my multi national company is French.

I bet you get some top class content on shoots when the models turn up drunk/high don't you.

[Sam Slater]

Mike,

How can anyone say we are slipping into an authoritarian state? I'm sorry, but to that regard, when I was a child I was forced to learn mathematics, forced to learn to read & write, forced to go swimming, forced to have innoculations, forced to have my hair checked for lice by the school nurse!!! How humiliating for me!!!!

Two years ago I wen't back to college. During my time at college we had to move into a local school while the college was being closed for refurbishment.
At that school, kids were smoking cannabis at lunch breaks freely. If teachers tried to intervene, the kids told them to 'fuck off' and they wen't on their merry way home. To keep the kids in school the teachers just put up with it.

These kids probably only make up 10% of the pupils, so I felt sorry for the other 90% who were polite, intelligent kids who were having their education spoilt by the other 10%. I once saw a girl around 12 years old, grab hold of a male teacher by the crotch and shouted 'give me a fucking baby you bastard!', 'give me a fucking baby jesus now, or I'll tell everyone you've already fucked me!' I felt sorry for a guy who spent all his youth going through university wanting to make a difference to our childrens education, only to go through that, five days a week.

I don't have kids, but if I did, and there was a chance that drug testing would cut down disruption in class, giving my kids a better chance of passing all their GCSE's, thus giving them a better chance of them going to university, thus giving them a better chance of becoming educated, helpful, and successful citizens then I'd sign that form with gusto!

[randyandy]

I refer to my previous answer. The BOLLOCKS bit

[strictlybroadband]

You might want to explain why the Americans have now decided to withdraw resources from the so-called "war on drugs". Maybe it's because after fighting drugs for 30 years, the problem is 100 times worse than it was then?