Aye, he's effective. He runs a lot, and can hit a ball, but he's no artist like Fabregas, Scholes, Xabi, Kaka, Riquelme.
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Sam Slater
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Re: England
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Re: England
jj wrote:
> Every reputable pundit said he should change the line-up for this match
I not sure they did the ones I saw said the team shouldn't be changed to accommodate the likes of Lampard and for a long period of the game most were still sticking by that view.
Think the reality was that they just didn't perform when they needed to when the pressure started which sadly seems to be the norm.
Barry's passing was awful but for me his name was one of the 1st on the team sheet prior to the game.
Losing Cole and Terry didn't help but Lescott was a big mistake, not because he's a bad player but because he didn't have the experience for that type of game.
IF's again played a big part IF Gerrard had scored then no probs, IF the team had started lunching the ball into row Z when the shit was hitting the fan it would have eased the pressure before the goal and IF Robinson had parried things would have been different.
Trouble is we need a coach who recognises the IF's and gets off his arse and does something about them if he can.
When the shit was hitting the fan he should have been screaming clear the lines and I am not sure that he was.
Should he be sacked because of this result NO should he be sacked because of the performance in the competition sadly YES.
> Every reputable pundit said he should change the line-up for this match
I not sure they did the ones I saw said the team shouldn't be changed to accommodate the likes of Lampard and for a long period of the game most were still sticking by that view.
Think the reality was that they just didn't perform when they needed to when the pressure started which sadly seems to be the norm.
Barry's passing was awful but for me his name was one of the 1st on the team sheet prior to the game.
Losing Cole and Terry didn't help but Lescott was a big mistake, not because he's a bad player but because he didn't have the experience for that type of game.
IF's again played a big part IF Gerrard had scored then no probs, IF the team had started lunching the ball into row Z when the shit was hitting the fan it would have eased the pressure before the goal and IF Robinson had parried things would have been different.
Trouble is we need a coach who recognises the IF's and gets off his arse and does something about them if he can.
When the shit was hitting the fan he should have been screaming clear the lines and I am not sure that he was.
Should he be sacked because of this result NO should he be sacked because of the performance in the competition sadly YES.
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Sam Slater
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Re: England
There's only one English manager that can handle that job right now. His name's Glenn Hoddle.
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Deuce Bigolo
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Re: lineker/owen/rooney/?
Seems to me that the only way to guarantee qualification out of these groups is to win every game...very few are that good over such a long qualifying period due to all the other competitions going on
Now its up to
croatia to slip up at macedonia or
russia to slip up in israel
and the last home game against croatia becomes a live rubber
I'll wait till the last game has been played before i throw the baby out with the bath water
Now its up to
croatia to slip up at macedonia or
russia to slip up in israel
and the last home game against croatia becomes a live rubber
I'll wait till the last game has been played before i throw the baby out with the bath water
Re: England
Lescott was a mistake because he's not a left back and not necessarily because of a lack of big match experience.
As for changing the team then I think it was Jamie Redknapp who (before the game) advocated leaving out Michael Owen partly for fitness reasons but mainly tactical as we needed someone to hold the ball up i.e. Crouch and Redknapp's words were all too true as we just couldn't hold possesion of the ball long enough and it just kept coming back far too often.
As for changing the team then I think it was Jamie Redknapp who (before the game) advocated leaving out Michael Owen partly for fitness reasons but mainly tactical as we needed someone to hold the ball up i.e. Crouch and Redknapp's words were all too true as we just couldn't hold possesion of the ball long enough and it just kept coming back far too often.
Re: England
I'm going to differ with you there Sam.
Gerrard is a top top passer of a football and whereas he might not have the touch of Kaka I would have him in my team ahead of all the others you mentioned.
My one critisism of Gerrard over the years is that he wants to play the killer pass too often.
That said Gerrard is currently having the worst run of form in his career but hopefully that is only temporary.
Gerrard is a top top passer of a football and whereas he might not have the touch of Kaka I would have him in my team ahead of all the others you mentioned.
My one critisism of Gerrard over the years is that he wants to play the killer pass too often.
That said Gerrard is currently having the worst run of form in his career but hopefully that is only temporary.
Re: England
I must be one of the few that think qualification isn't necessarily over as the Russians won't have an easy time away in Israel.
That said if we don't qualify then I hope we don't do what we usually do and that's look to make one man a scapegoat as we are good at that.
Instead why don't the FA look at the overall picture and ask why we don't have a national academy, the lack of qualified coaching at youth levels (and other levels if the truth be told), why clubs aren't bringing english players through and an over reliance on foreign players in our leagues?
There are other issues but these would be a good place to start.
But of course we could always just blame one man for our shortcomings as that is the easiest thing to do and something we specialise in.
That said if we don't qualify then I hope we don't do what we usually do and that's look to make one man a scapegoat as we are good at that.
Instead why don't the FA look at the overall picture and ask why we don't have a national academy, the lack of qualified coaching at youth levels (and other levels if the truth be told), why clubs aren't bringing english players through and an over reliance on foreign players in our leagues?
There are other issues but these would be a good place to start.
But of course we could always just blame one man for our shortcomings as that is the easiest thing to do and something we specialise in.
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eduardo wrote:
> That said if we don't qualify then I hope we don't do what we
> usually do and that's look to make one man a scapegoat as we
> are good at that.
Indeed not; counting McLaren, I make it 24 .
He only decides tactics and puts the buggers on the pitch- if they screw
up, it's only about 20% his fault. What really pisses me off is when these
pathetic boastful underperformers refuse to admit their own inadequacies, immediately after touting their halfwit autobiogs from their completely
undeserved Ferraris.
> That said if we don't qualify then I hope we don't do what we
> usually do and that's look to make one man a scapegoat as we
> are good at that.
Indeed not; counting McLaren, I make it 24 .
He only decides tactics and puts the buggers on the pitch- if they screw
up, it's only about 20% his fault. What really pisses me off is when these
pathetic boastful underperformers refuse to admit their own inadequacies, immediately after touting their halfwit autobiogs from their completely
undeserved Ferraris.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: England
Jamie Rednapp was also ranting on about the pitch before the game.
When Hoddle corrected him his face was priceless as it was when McClaren did the same when he was interviewed.
I missed his comments about Crouch but heard his comments about how brilliant Owen was to create the goal fro Rooney.
Good point about Lescott not being a left back however playing a full back on his wrong side happens a lot these days usually because they give an option in another area like set pieces.
For me this option should have been forgotten for experience of the position & of football at that level.
I wouldn't want Phil Nevell in the team unless it was because of injuries but had be been on the pitch I'd guarantee when the shit was hitting the fan the ball would have been launched into row Z
When Hoddle corrected him his face was priceless as it was when McClaren did the same when he was interviewed.
I missed his comments about Crouch but heard his comments about how brilliant Owen was to create the goal fro Rooney.
Good point about Lescott not being a left back however playing a full back on his wrong side happens a lot these days usually because they give an option in another area like set pieces.
For me this option should have been forgotten for experience of the position & of football at that level.
I wouldn't want Phil Nevell in the team unless it was because of injuries but had be been on the pitch I'd guarantee when the shit was hitting the fan the ball would have been launched into row Z