Having a laugh or what (part 2) ?

[one eyed jack]

I think its typical people harping on about the ills of labour now Tories are using it as an excuse to shaft us up the arse with no vaseline.

Lets keep this lot happy and tlak about fanny Jim. Its what we do and we should stick to what we know best and keep a smile on peoples faces...Dont put them on a downer but if you really have to then just state the truth that Tories have fucked us like I knew they would

Sure labour werent perfect by any means but better the devil you know than the one you don't

They dont arf like to go on about cleaning up after Labour..Just get on and clean it up then and stop reminding people then!!!

Its as if they are trying to make up for their shortcomings by blaming it on the last lot and that makes them spineless to me.

[one eyed jack]

And to add...its not all th emoney spent on quangoes either. Labour have always done that. remember the GLC?

Lets not forget its the governemnt bailing out the banks that have really stiffed us otheriwse it would be business as usual.

[jimslip]

Like yourself David, I too, like a broken record will churn out the same old mantra:

"New Labour had 13 years to sort this stuff out.........and they didn't, as they were too busy lining their own pockets and creating a Police State!"
"New Labour had 13 years to sort this stuff out.........and they didn't, as they were too busy lining their own pockets and creating a Police State!"
"New Labour had 13 years to sort this stuff out.........and they didn't, as they were too busy lining their own pockets and creating a Police State!"
"New Labour had 13 years to sort this stuff out.........and they didn't, as they were too busy lining their own pockets and creating a Police State!"
"New Labour had 13 years to sort this stuff out.........and they didn't, as they were too busy lining their own pockets and creating a Police State!"
"New Labour had 13 years to sort this stuff out.........and they didn't, as they were too busy lining their own pockets and creating a Police State!"

ad infinitum

[one eyed jack]

Hmmm...You sure Tories dont plan on the same thing Jim?

[David Johnson]

"New Labour had 13 years to sort this stuff out.........and they didn't"

So are you going to answer or run away and hide like you usually do? I repeat my question based on what Labour actually did whilst in power .

"Wasn't it Cameron and the Tory lot that vehemently opposed the introduction by New Labour of the minimum wage? Didn't every single Tory MP vote agains the introduction of a minimum wage?

Perhaps you could explain the thinking behind that aspect of the "Tories Egalitarian society"."

Secondly, the Lib Dem/Cons introduced an emergency budget about a month after being in office. The Institution for Fiscal Studies (the same IFS that Osborne depended on heavily whilst in opposition for his info to attack Brown) stated that if you took away the top 10% of the population in terms of wealth, for each of the other 9 sectors, the poorer you were the more you got hit, percentage wise.

At the same time a ?2billion tax on bankers was introduced. Given that reductions in corporation tax announced at the same time meant that the banks would pretty much get all of the tax back, the result was Bankers ?800 billion, penalty 0.

So second question Jimbo, can you explain how this fits into the Tory/Lib Dem concept of a fair society?

Over to you Jim. Going to answer the points?

Cheers
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[David Johnson]

For those who continue to struggle understanding your posts I have an additional item for the translator.

"Like yourself David, I too, like a broken record will churn out the same old mantra"

David keeps making points I can't answer like whether the Tory opposition to the New Labour minimum wage and the Tory/Lib Dem emergency budget hitting the poor the hardest is going to make Britain a more or less egalitarian society?

What am I to do? Try a diversionary tactic and hope that works.


For those requiring additional help please refer here

http://bgafd.co.uk/forum/read.php?f=3&i=236744&t=236704

Cheers
D

[Dave Wells]

This post has got fuck all to do with who is in power boys so take your playground scrap behind the bike sheds.

The point I'm making is the victimisation of me by this prospective employer for being in a totally legit biz - porn. The guy is a TWAT and I want to expose him and his STUPID organisation for being prejudice !

p.s He is one of many by the way. Most of course don't even reply.

[jimslip]

I've told you, I am not in a New Labour, "Court" or torture chamber and you are not my Inquisitor, although I am sure you'd love to be, thumb screws and all. I do not have to answer your qvestionz!

But, how vacuous can you get when all you can throw at someone who dares query the tyranny of the New Labour Junta is........"Tory Boy?" LOL

You are such a pocket dictator ready to get the knuckle dusters out at the first sign of argument. God help us if people like you ever get into power.

We live in a democracy David, a concept you New Labourites secretly hate!

You answer me this simple question:

1/Why after 13 years did New Labour not build a Utopia?
2/Why are you blaming the Tories for anything at all, after they have been out of power for 13 years?
3/How can you be so blinkered?

[David Johnson]

"I am not in a New Labour, "Court" or torture chamber and you are not my Inquisitor, although I am sure you'd love to be, thumb screws and all."

I see you have gone for the Coco the Clown defence. I will try to get you a summer season in Blackpool Tower, Jimbo. I can see great success.

First unwritten rule of this forum, Jimbo, if people start shovelling shit on you, respond in kind!"

This could be you?

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Let me explain a little bit about something called a discussion Jimbo. It sometimes happens on forums where politics, amongst a whole range of other topics get discussed.

For example,

1. Someone, namely yourself, tells a story " I know someone who is a teacher of 60, has worked in the same school for 30 years. He is having to write to the school to explain "Why they should keep him on. Welcome to New Labours Egalitarian society, where some are more equal than others. They frequently denigrate the previous government.

2. Someone, namely myself, points out "Wasn't it Cameron and the Tory lot that vehemently opposed the introduction by New Labour of the minimum wage? Didn't every single Tory MP vote against the introduction of a minimum wage? Perhaps you could explain the thinking behind that aspect of the "Tories Egalitarian society". I.e. at least Labour brought in the minimum wage and other equality legislation e.g. around disability whilst in power. This lot we have now seem to be against equality and fairness in reality.

3. At this point one of two things can happen. In a discussion, someone, namely yourself can pick up the point in 2 and reply around it. See some of the discussions that Alicia Fan has been involved in over the months to get the hang of it.

The other thing that can happen which is not a discussion, more of a boring old fucker at the bar shouting out in the pub without discussing anything with anybody is that other person, not necessarily yourself of course, doesnt pick up the points mentioned, but instead starts insulting anyone who takes a different view.

So its up to you, Jim. If you do see yourself as a boring old cunt in a pub talking to yourself, just tell us all and anyone, not just myself, will totally ignore you and not respond if they have a different view to you.

If you are prepared to have something called a discussion just let us know

Understood?

Have a nice evening, ya hear.

Cheers
D

[David Johnson]

"This post has got fuck all to do with who is in power boys so take your playground scrap behind the bike sheds."

A valid comment. I apologise. I hope your talent gets recognised by someone with a job offer soon!!!

CHeers
D